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Introduction to the Great Books
and to a Liberal Education
(with LDS references)

Course and page numbers based on the books (see picture) of the same name edited by Mortimer J. Adler and Peter Wolff, published by Encyclopaedia Britannica, Inc.

Compiled by James Meyer

Intro

Read President Hinckley's counsel to study good books

Read and discuss "The Great Conversation"


Reading 1: Plato, Apology and Crito.  Volume 7, pp 200-219.

Read "The Relationship between Plato and Socrates"

Read "About Plato"

Reading Plato's "Apology"

"If, as Alfred North Whitehead wrote (in Process and Reality), "the European philosophical tradition consists of a series of footnotes to Plato," there can be no better starting place than Plato for an introduction to the Great Books."  Mortimer J. Adler

 
Your first assignment is Chapter 1, to read Apology and Crito.  I would recommend reading the questions before you read the selections.  You don't have to write long answers, although if some of the questions capture your imagination, then please feel free to give longer answers.  I am looking forward to discussing these questions with you.
 
 
Section I:  Apology part 1
 
Read the first part, pp 200-209 (the bars across the column), mark the break.  This is Socrates' defense against the charges.
 
    Questions to answer:
 
            1.  With what is Socrates being charged?
 
            2.  Is he guilty?
 
            3.  How does he defend himself against the charge of promoting "new gods?"
 
            4.  Why does he call himself a gadfly?  What purpose does "gadfly Socrates" perform?
 
            5.  What does he value?  Wealth?  Position?
 
            6.  (Page 207) What does he "preach?"  Describe in some detail (give examples).


 
Socrates circa 470 - 399 BC
 

Famous painting on the death of Socrates by Jacques-Louis David (1748-1825).

Section II:  Apology, part 2

After you have had a chance to reflect, perhaps reread favorite sections, read the next section, starting on page 209 and going to 212.
 
            1.  Has the tone of the discourse changed since the first section?
 
            2.  What would have been the fine imposed on Meletus if he hadn't received move than one fifth of the votes?
 
            3.  Why did he not plead for his life?
 
 
Section III--Crito:
 
            1.  What are the main reasons he gives for not being willing to flee?
 
            2.  Which (if any) of his reasons do you agree with?
 
            3.  Do you sense other reasons besides those which he states (especially when he talks about offending the law) for his refusal?  Is it just to defy an unjust law?
 
            4.  For the execution, Socrates was given a cup of poisonous hemlock, which he drank.  Often, he is described as doing this with almost bravado.  Based on his words, do you think this is an accurate representation?  Does not fleeing make him a hero or a coward?
 
 
Larger Questions:
 
            1.  Here is Socrates "the pagan," who is living his life based on the truth and light that he has received.  Living as he did (and describes himself) what kind of member of the church do you think he would be?  Why?
 
            2.  Do you like Socrates?
 
            3.  He makes two references to revelation (not the instances with the Oracle).  What do you think of it?  Do you think these were from God?

            4.  Read and discuss the following quote from Elder Maxwell's final address in General Conference.  How do the ideas conveyed by Elder Maxwell juxtapose with what we have read in this section?  Write down your insights concerning Elder Maxwell's instructions.  How do they apply to you?  How do his words make you feel?
 

"As you submit your wills to God, you are giving Him the only thing you can actually give Him that is really yours to give. Don't wait too long to find the altar or to begin to place the gift of your wills upon it! No need to wait for a receipt; the Lord has His own special ways of acknowledging.

"I testify to you that God has known you individually, brethren, for a long, long time (see D&C 93:23). He has loved you for a long, long time. He not only knows the names of all the stars (see Psalm 147:4; Isaiah 40:26); He knows your names and all your heartaches and your joys! By the way, you have never seen an immortal star; they finally expire. But seated by you tonight are immortal individuals—imperfect but who are, nevertheless, "trying to be like Jesus"!" (Neal A. Maxwell, April 2004 General Conference)


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Reading 2: Plato, The Republic, Books I and II   Volume 7, pp 295-324.

Plato's The Republic, text and reader's guide

Overview.  According to the study guide, the purpose of this lesson is to explore the nature of justice.  The translation calls this "justice," but we would understand this more clearly as the nature of "good versus evil."  Socrates explores this at several different levels with different people.  From this reading, focus in the course of the discussion.  I would like you to start getting a feel for the nature of discussion and inquiry used by Socrates.  Consider the situations that people present to him, and that he describes.  Do you agree with his assessment about the nature of good?  This pursuit was of utmost importance to Socrates, because as he said in Apology, the study of virtue (or true and righteousness) is one of the very few worthy pursuits in life.

Lamoni--Alma 18:5:  Now this was the tradition of Lamoni, which he had received from his father, that there was a Great Spirit. Notwithstanding they believed in a Great Spirit, they supposed that whatsoever they did was right; nevertheless, Lamoni began to fear exceedingly, with fear lest he had done wrong in slaying his servants;

It is important to us, as members of the church, many of these teachings were the lifeblood of intellectual thought at the time of Christ--and the New Testament.  As you think back on the scriptures in the New Testament, are there any similarities (manner of speech, literary allusions, etc?)  Paul knew these works, and he therefore also well understood how the gentiles were had difficulty accepting the truth of the Messiah because of these philosophies.


Plato (c. 429-347 BC)
 

Read the introduction to Plato's Republic (seen as Plato's attempt at answering the question "what is the point of being good?" when the wicked are apparently so much happier and more successful), and then discuss Alma 5:6-7 as an answer to the question "what is the point of being good?"
 

Alma:6 And now behold, I say unto you, my brethren, you that belong to this church, have you sufficiently retained in remembrance the captivity of your fathers? Yea, and have you sufficiently retained in remembrance his mercy and long-suffering towards them? And moreover, have ye sufficiently retained in remembrance that he has delivered their souls from hell?

7 Behold, he changed their hearts; yea, he awakened them out of a deep sleep, and they awoke unto God. Behold, they were in the midst of darkness; nevertheless, their souls were illuminated by the light of the everlasting word; yea, they were encircled about by the bands of death, and the chains of hell, and an everlasting destruction did await them.

Read the following excerpt from Alma's teachings on a "great change of heart".  How does having a change of heart prepare us for God's justice?   What is the meaning of the phrase "according to his faith," as applied in this context?

 


Alma 5:12 And according to his faith there was a mighty change wrought in his heart. Behold I say unto you that this is all true.

13 And behold, he preached the word unto your fathers, and a mighty change was also wrought in their hearts, and they humbled themselves and put their trust in the true and living God. And behold, they were faithful until the end; therefore they were saved.

14 And now behold, I ask of you, my brethren of the church, have ye spiritually been born of God? Have ye received his image in your countenances? Have ye experienced this mighty change in your hearts?

15 Do ye exercise faith in the redemption of him who created you? Do you look forward with an eye of faith, and view this mortal body raised in immortality, and this corruption braised in incorruption, to stand before God to be judged according to the deeds which have been done in the mortal body?

16 I say unto you, can you imagine to yourselves that ye hear the voice of the Lord, saying unto you, in that day: Come unto me ye blessed, for behold, your works have been the works of righteousness upon the face of the earth?
 

Assignment:

This is a much lighter reading than the first.  Enjoy.  Have fun with it.  Try to imagine yourself there, discussing with Socrates.  Try to imagine the world as it was in ancient Greece 400 years before Christ.  It was a world much less encumbered by machines than is ours.  This civilization is a chief ancestor of our own.  The questions they asked and studied were treated by philosophers and great thinkers over the next 2400 years, and even today.  That is what is meant by "The Great Conversation".  Do these questions interest us?  Many of them do--but at the same time the gospel answers many of them for us with more clarity than has ever been available to men.  What a blessing!

Fun discussion item:  The Ring of Gyges (311b-312a).  Which people (or otherwise) does this person bring to mind?  What of the inevitability that he talks about--that someone with such a ring would choose injustice.

Consider Bilbo Baggins from Tolkien's delightful tale The Hobbit.  Was Bilbo a hobbit of extraordinary virtue?  How can we account for that?  On the other hand, consider Sméagol, whose corrupt character allowed him to succumb to the temptation first to kill, and then to use the ring wickedly.

In the real world, we have no rings of invisibility.  Men use other things as cloaks of invisibility--to hide their evil natures.  In the Book of Mormon, Amalickiah used a screen of lies to obtained the things he desired (starts in Alma 46).

The Cave:

Describe Plato's allegory of the cave (people looking at the shadows).  One person is freed, and then tries to come back and tell the others.  They want no part of it.  They have no way to understand.  Here are some helpful links:

Plato's cave allegory:  could you escape from the cave? (interactive graphic)
Discussion of the cave allegory
Easy to understand discussion of The Republic.  (click on the link to "Republic")
 

Read Elder Packer's talk about spiritually "tasting salt Explain why the man in Elder Packer's story could not understand knowing something without being able to describe it.

Discuss the interplay of ideas presented in these two allegories as you ponder the meaning of Elder Packer's allegory of "tasting salt" and Plato's allegory of the cave in The Republic.

Questions:

Is man basically virtuous? Evil?  Give the true doctrine.

Why does man need to be humble? 

Why are there no perfect people?  (Because it is not in God's plan for us.  See Ether 12).


 


Sophocles (495 - 405 BC)

 

Reading 3: Sophocles, Oedipus, King of Thebes   Volume 5, pp 99 - 113.  (The lesson also recommends reading Antigone, but this is not discussed below).  Note that the subject matter of Oedipus is more difficult than some of the other readings, and (I would say) not suitable for younger children.

Read a brief bio of Sophocles and introduce yourself to his writings

Teacher's notes:  Rather than have my daughters read the play beforehand, I chose to take turns reading it so they could hear out loud the poetic nature of the words.  The play is not very long, but still could take 3-4 one hour sessions to cover it.  Whether you want to spend that much time on it or not is your choice, although I believe my daughters did receive an appreciation for the beauty of the writing through this method--even given the difficult story.

Key points:  Oedipus starts out on top of the world.  He is a king of a mighty city, and is called "king glorious in all eyes." (find out for sure).  Of his exalted position, Oedipus is sure, although he is anxious to seek the cure to the terrible things that have befallen his people (plagues, no crops, no children being born, death).  His elevated status only prepares him for his eventual downfall, where Teiresias predicts he will be lower than all men.

Comparison:  compare Oedipus' oncoming fate and situation with that of another man, who was "well known among all that know me, and wealthy by my own efforts . . ."  This is similar to the way that Oedipus is introduced.  But Heavenly Father dealt more gently with this man (who was also a rebel) by sending an angel to him with a command to help "a holy prophet."  This is of course Amulek.  Amulek chose to obey God's command--and eventually became a mighty preacher of righteousness--even though he too suffered severe personal tragedy.

Taking opportunity to discuss with the children what is happening when the language is difficult to follow is helpful.

Note to the teacher:  to make the length more manageable, you might stop from where Teiresias says "You are the offender" to discuss (this also leaves more of a mystery) and skip past Oedipus' conversation with Creon, where he accuses Creon of conspiring against him.

There are many opportunities to discuss how in real life our actions determine our course, not the "fates" or the cruel decrees of mostly indifferent gods, as in the fantasy of Oedipus.  Also, as mentioned before, God's interaction, care and love for his children stands in sharp contrast to Phoebus' (Apollo) actions.


Plaster cast of statue of Sophocles.
© Ashmolean Museum, Cast Gallery.
 

Was Oedipus guilty?  Of what was he guilty?  How much was he simply manipulated by the pitiless gods?  To consider these questions, the children must examine the unique circumstances of Oedipus' existence, the culture (which might explain his bravado and quick temper), and other factors.  It is a good opportunity to help the children see that things are rarely as simple or straightforward as they seem.   Even in the encounter with Laïus at the crossroads, it is easy to imagine that after Laïus struck him with his staff, that Oedipus was fighting for his life against five men; he was simply defending himself.  Or it might be simply that it was Oedipus' wounded pride that led to the deaths of Laïus and his servants.  Is there anything that supports either on one of these hypotheses?  (His boasting "I paid him back with interest" seems to indicate a great deal of pride and lack of remorse).

Continuing on until the end of the story, Sophocles shows how he went from being a great one to a most miserable man.  He say, roughly, to count no man happy until he has gone through life with no troubles.  What do you think of that conclusion?

Job:  briefly examine the trials that he underwent (Job chapters 1-14, and chapter 42).  He, like Oedipus, was bereft of everything--he children, his wealth and his health.  But through his trials he learned, not only who is friends were, but eternal principles of patience and longsuffering.  He was even taught of the Lord about the premortal existence (chapter 38).  In the end, as a result the Lord restored to him many of the things he lost and blessed him with more posterity.

The Lord spoke to Joseph Smith when he was suffering in Liberty Jail.  He said "thou art not yet as Job . . ." (D & C 121:9-10) so apparently this is not just a story.
 

An even more apt comparison to Oedipus is Alma the Younger.  Alma was, as Oedipus, awakened to his awful state in an instant.  In reading about Oedipus, we can get another view of what must have befallen Alma.  He fell to the ground, almost lifeless, as he understood and felt the burden of his sins.  Unlike Oedipus, however, Alma (as we) had a savior who rescued him from his awful condition (Alma 36, Mosiah 27).

What of Oedipus?  Was he "set up?"  Was he merely a victim of the gods?

Discuss.

The very last play that Sophocles wrote was Oedipus at Colonus.  Sophocles apparently finally felt sorry for Oedipus and in this final play, Oedipus is (as we would understand in the church), translated.  He was taken directly to heaven. Hence, another likeness to the story of Alma (who was likely translated--Alma 45:19).  Now, as they say, you know the rest of the story.

 

Future Readings as outlined in the first volume of Introduction to the Great Books and to a Liberal Education may include:

Reading 1: Plato, Apology and Crito
Reading 2: Plato, The Republic
Reading 3: Sophocles, Oedipus, King of Thebes 
Reading 4:  Aristotle, Nicomachean Ethics
Reading 5:  Aristotle, Politics
Reading 6:  Plutarch, The Lives of the Noble Grecians and Romans
Reading 7: Old Testament, Book of Job
Reading 8:  St. Augustine, The Confessions
Reading 9:  Montaigne, The Essays
Reading 10:  Shakespeare, Hamlet
Reading 11:  Locke, Concerning Civil Government
Reading 12:  Swift, Gulliver's Travels
Reading 13:  Gibbon, The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Reading 14:  The Declaration of Independence; The Constitution of the United States; The Federalist

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